Our August N&G Book Club pick was Self Care by Leigh Stein. She was prescient in writing this book, not only because we could all use a little—or a lot—of self care these days, but because we are all living online right now and being hit from every direction with what to buy, breaking news, and viral videos. I know that I’m overstimulated. This book couldn’t have come and spoken to a better time. The satirical lens in which Leigh wrote about self-care in the lifestyle space made me giddy. I got totally wrapped up in the Richual space (great name) and the stereotypes that Maren, Devin, Khadajiha, Evan and others provided.

I was initially really nervous to chat with Leigh because I have been living in this lifestyle self-care space and watched things unfold from an insider perspective. But Leigh was honest and kind and cool. She’s whip-smart and has a curiosity about the world around her and supporting women. It was such a great conversation. I felt like I was talking to an old friend, and it’s a friendship I hope to continue.

Watch our full conversation in the video below. And then pick up a copy of Self Care, if you haven’t read it yet.